It's sad that for eight years the Obama Administration and the Democrat party advised people to cower and beg for their lives while waiting for someone with a gun to save them.

You don't even need a gun to confront some a-hole like this. One person distracts and another tackles from behind.




It's your life. Fight for it! Fight back!


 

What is America to do about these right wing murdering nuts and their racist President who empowers them?

Oh, sorry about that.....I see Gar posted it.....It figures that Dowie couldn't have found something that told it like is is like that.

Nobody knows more about gun violence, perhaps in the whole world, than Donald J. Trump. This I can tell you. 

LegalAmerican wrote:

The Dowie wrote:

What is America to do about these right wing murdering nuts and their racist President who empowers them?

ALL LEFT WING & DEMON-RATS....starting with Lincoln...DEMON-RATS should NOT have guns.  The video by Ogami with black dude is DEMON-RAT.  President has received awards for NOT BEING RACIST. from Jesse Jackson & Ellis Island award.  SO,  why are  you  lying, communist saying everything backwards?  You think we are not informed on here?  I LAUGH.  HA!   Can't help yourself being a pathological liar?  SHAME 

1986: Trump, Rosa Parks, Muhammad Ali received ‘Ellis Island’ awardSEPTEMBER 4, 2016BY KYLE OLSON SHARESNo one accused Donald Trump of being a racist until he decided to run for president and became a threat to Hillary Clinton’s return to power.In 1986, Trump joined several other prominent Americans, such as Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali, as recipients of an “Ellis Island Award.”One suspects if Trump was a racist, there’s no way he would have posed for a photo with those two.
#DonaldTrump receives Ellis Island Medal of Honor from Nat'l Ethnic Coalition of Organizations w/ Rosa Parks & Ali. pic.twitter.com/zecyjHP0Au— Jaime T Trump  (@JaimeTennille) September 2, 2016
The New York Times reported on October 16, 1986:Eighty Americans from 42 ethnic groups were named yesterday as recipients of the Ellis Island Medal of Honor by the Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation.The medals will be presented to the recipients, all either naturalized or native Americans, at a ceremony Oct. 27 on Ellis Island. That is the day before the 100th anniversary of the dedication of the Statue of Liberty, the final event of the 1986 Liberty Centennial observances. …Those named yesterday were selected from more than 15,000 nominations. The winners, a mixture of prominent and relatively unknown citizens, were screened by the National Ethnic Coalition of Organizations, which was selected for the work by the foundation.The National Ethnic Coalition of Organizations lists its reasoning behind the awards on its website:The ELLIS ISLAND MEDALS OF HONOR are awarded annually to a group of distinguished American citizens who exemplify a life dedicated to community service. These are individuals who preserve and celebrate the history, traditions and values of their ancestry while exemplifying the values of the American way of life, and who are dedicated to creating a better world for us all.It also lists its award recipient criteria, including:

• Integrity
• Passion
• Gravitas
• Humanitarian
• Ethnic Heritage

LegalAmerican wrote:

mathew31 wrote:

Nobody knows more about gun violence, perhaps in the whole world, than Donald J. Trump. This I can tell you. 

You lying, little , muslim , gay prk!   STFU  IN YOUR UK.   YOU DON'T VOTE HERE.  

Graduate of charm school.

Last edited by A-Ha A-HaHa A-HaHaHa (8/05/2019 12:42 am)

The barrel end of shooters [Patrick C] replica rifle had an orange safety tip in original still photos from CCTV. Subsequent pictures were photoshopped. Maybe the accused believed he was acting in a drill? Several witnesses stated they saw multiple shooters.

BTW, the fake manifesto was originally posted on Instagram, not 8chan pol board. Nobody I know saw it on the infinity Chan boards [there are/were at least 2 dozen separate boards] until the El Paso clown show hit msm news. The qrb 8chan board was never listed on 8chan index. Originally the way guests found it was via invite. That changed early this year. I think at least a few peeps suspect the Dim FFs are meant to end free speech and research boards. The antisemitic & disgusting gore posts were traceable to shill farms.

Notice that nobody’s talking about billions of federal funds which the people of Baltimore MD never received? But the truth about that and other dirty deeds will come out soon.


https://yournews.com/2019/08/06/1130562/is-the-el-paso-shooters-manifesto-a-fake/

Doc.Levy wrote:

The barrel end of shooters [Patrick C] replica rifle had an orange safety tip in original still photos from CCTV. Subsequent pictures were photoshopped. Maybe the accused believed he was acting in a drill? Several witnesses stated they saw multiple shooters.

BTW, the fake manifesto was originally posted on Instagram, not 8chan pol board. Nobody I know saw it on the infinity Chan boards [there are/were at least 2 dozen separate boards] until the El Paso clown show hit msm news. The qrb 8chan board was never listed on 8chan index. Originally the way guests found it was via invite. That changed early this year. I think at least a few peeps suspect the Dim FFs are meant to end free speech and research boards. The antisemitic & disgusting gore posts were traceable to shill farms.

Notice that nobody’s talking about billions of federal funds which the people of Baltimore MD never received? But the truth about that and other dirty deeds will come out soon.

https://yournews.com/2019/08/06/1130562/is-the-el-paso-shooters-manifesto-a-fake/

Ogami wrote:

Doc.Levy wrote:

The barrel end of shooters [Patrick C] replica rifle had an orange safety tip in original still photos from CCTV. Subsequent pictures were photoshopped. Maybe the accused believed he was acting in a drill? Several witnesses stated they saw multiple shooters

I find it hard to believe you're a sentient human being. Is there a Russian troll farm where morons are paid to post every day about crisis actors? Or do you speculate endlessly about "maybes" for free?

If so, you're underpaid.

I'd like to build the new board, not insult and drive people off, Ogami....

Ogami wrote:

Sad when I have to agree with Dowie's emoticons.

Although the tendency of some to automatically see "false flag crisis actor conspiracy truther events" whenever real news happens is also sad, I think it's important to note that the Democrats have also engaged in this sort of thing.

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How do you know what news is "REAL" and what is fake, without the use of deductive reasoning, in historical context?

Answer: You don't....

Given the history of mass shootings and the timing of the latest event, perfectly tying into the Democrat gun ban agenda.....EVERYTHING about this SHOULD be questioned. You SHOULD assume that the fake news is lying to you.....Anything less would be naive....
 

Cydoniaquest wrote:

I'd like to build the new board, not insult and drive people off, Ogami....

I utterly reject your premise that Doc Levy is a victim in need of protection, in any sense. Doc Levy is not a witness to these events, he wasn't at Walmart or hanging around Dayton's downtown nightclub scene, so what does it matter if I question his citation of "news" he hasn't seen and can't possibly confirm?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence/proof. At this moment, it's been almost a week since the mass shootings in Dayton and El Paso, and I've been watching FoxNews throughout, online news throughout, and reading Drudge Report links and Newsbusters.org links and Rushlimbaugh.com transcripts on the events in these two cities.

Not one of the news outlets I regularly trust for balanced has noted, confirmed, or even referred to a single thing that Doc Levy mentions, that he thinks is telling, thinks is important, or thinks is some sort of proof for these massacres being faked.

Now I did start posting here with the claim that I wasn't going to re-argue various past "false flag" discussions that were on Tapatalk, but let's consider for a moment what Doc Levy is asserting with his "questions":

1) That every dead person at Wal-Mart or Dayton did not die. They were paid actors, or made up.

2) That every wounded person that President Trump and the First Lady visited in hospitals were "false flag crisis actors".

3) That every person involved in dealing with these shootings, fire fighters, police, city officials, hospital staff, emergency medical technicians, Wal-mart employees, and Dayton civilians walking by the street were all "in" on the conspiracy to somehow fake the mass shootings, all for the purposes of... restricting the second amendment.

4) That the grieving relatives we see on tv are actors, not real. That the president of the united states is either complicit in this fakery, or too stupid to notice he's being tricked, along with every news outlet in the country.

As we've discussed before, it appears to be a common theme with "false flag" online news stories that they originate in Russia or China. The Deputy Space Minister of Russia noted in an interview that most "moon landings faked" stories originate in Russia. We saw how a zerohedge "story" on Syrian dictator Bashir Assad being framed for using chlorine WMD against his own citizens had as its source the official Russian government news agency TASS and the official Syrian government news agency.

What's the commonality here? To find areas where foreign adversary states can sow discord, mistrust, and paranoia among American citizens in their own government. If posters like Doc Levy can convince a number of internet posters that they are the ongoing victims of endless "false flag crisis actor" attacks, then for a very small outlay of money, these countries benefit by harming the ability of ordinary Americans to come together and stand as one during times of crisis.

Now the above is just my assessment of "stories" such as what Doc Levy cites here.

If we are to look at the actual news stories stemming from these two attacks, we find narratives and threads that while breaking down partisan lines, have absolutely ZERO to do with what Doc Levy is promulgating/repeating/spreading, to whit:

1) Democrats were primed to wait for any incident of mass shootings to use to personally attack the common-sense rhetoric and policies of President Trump. The Democrats know their internal poll numbers show that they are not going to win the White House through the diversity of ideas of their candidates. They have to destroy Trump to win. This is why we see such an outrageous level of personal viciousness by the Democrats against the current president, something Republicans never did against President Obama when he was faced with similar mass shootings (again, all these years later, none of the actual disputes over Obama's mass shootings had anything to do with wacky false flag narratives).

2) Rather than seeing such shootings as common ground, Democrats saw these two mass shootings as an opportunity for political gain. Much like President Obama did at the Gabrielle Gifford's church service, turning it into a Democrat revival meeting instead of a solemn gathering to come together.

3) President Trump has rejected the left's usual gambit of demanding that "assault weapons" be banned, instead turning the focus on how mental health counseling needs to be beefed up as the response to these mass shootings.

In all three of the above, none of the actual matters of contention over these shootings have anything to do with "false flag crisis actor" speculations, guesses, narratives, memes, or allegations.

So yes, if I participate in news story discussions on what actually happened, and someone pops up with some false flag narrative intended to sow discord among Americans over topics that we should feel unity over (that's the goal of nation state adversaries, again), I will respond and probably not too nicely, either.

For Doc Levy to question the integrity or suffering of even one victim in El Paso or Dayton says all I need to know about him as a person. He hasn't presented extraordinary evidence of extraordinary crimes, he's just here to turn Americans against one another for the goals of some nation state. I call bullshit on him and whatever false flag links he conjures up.

But, Cydoniaquest wants me to entertain all possibilities fairly, so here goes. If I were to seriously entertain Doc Levy and his assertions, I would ask him "Is President Trump lying about thes victims? Is conservative media lying about these victims? Are they all part of the conspiracy? If the conspiracy is so massive as to include all media and all politicians and all officials in the American government, why did they let YOU, Doc Levy, post anything? Why didn't the black helicopters swoop in before you even managed to click "Post Reply" on a single thread on this message board?"



There is no answer to any of that beyond the fact that someone like Doc Levy is being paid by the Russian or Chinese government to turn American citizens against one another. He's not a seeker of truth, he wants Americans fearful and hating each other, worried over a new false flag attack each week as they cower in their corners, waiting for the end. No thanks, to him or his idiotic and laughable assertions.

Last edited by Ogami (8/08/2019 5:07 am)

I don't any false flag is required when it's a pretty simple equation from the left that we're dealing with here.

"Russian Collusion" failed. Despite endless new hearings, endless new requests for congressional witnesses, endless new requests for more paperwork, even Bret Kavanaugh's emails from serving under Bush, the Democrats know in their hearts that there is nothing there.

I would posit that the Democrat leadership, unlike their clueless moronic base, always knew there was no Russian Collusion, that no votes were swayed because of *attempted and failed* Russian interference in our election. (Russians also put up false facebook ads in support of Bernie Sanders, and he didn't win.)

How can I say this about the Democrat leadership? Witness the intensity of their latest screams of "racism!" and "White nationalist Trump". They would not have moved on to these if they thought they had a winner with Rep. Nadler and his goon squad of idiots.

Just remember the louder that Dems scream "Racist Trump caused these shootings", that's just more proof that they never believe Russian Collusion would go anywhere. The proof is in their efforts.