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Or maybe you will?
Epstein committed suicide on 8/10/2019
8+10+19=37
Bill Barr has 8 letters in his name
37+8=45
Trump is the 45th president!
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This is going to be the mother of all Conspiracy Theories. My take:
The guards had to have been ordered to look the other way while this guy was taken out.
Previously, Epstein had a "suicide attempt" and for the past few weeks he claimed someone tried to kill him.
An inmate will kill another inmate for a carton of cigarettes. Who offered the carton this time?
No, I have no proof and maybe Epstein felt guilty and wanted to avoid a trial. Still, there is the *little problem* that dozens of powerful men had every incentive to not have this trial take place and every incentive not to have Epstein on the stand saying stuff like "Yeah, I was bad, but these politicians, celebrities, and the powerful also did X while at my mansion, my islands, and my private jet".
And sorry, Dowie, I know you get your news from the leftist media, but Trump is not one of them. He got his rocks off (allegedly) with old, horse-faced professionals like Stormy Daniels, remember?
No, those who benefitted from the death of Epstein were all rich, white, powerful Democrat celebrities and rich, white, powerful Democrat politicians. And those people are used to having people killed for $50.
Do I have proof Epstein was taken out? Not at all. But there are people who benefit from his absence, and I guess that's where the case will run cold and we'll all move on to other things.
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Ogami, it surprises me that you would take the conspiracy theorist approach here.....Isn't it your belief that the official narrative is always the correct one? He must have committed suicide because CNN says so....Right?
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BTW.....I completely agree with you on this one, Ogami.....It's obvious that Epstein was "taken out".....probably another hit on the Clinton hit list.....next to Seth Rich and VInce Foster....
I'm just playing the devils advocate here.....How do we know when to go with the conspiracy angle and when not to?
That's the question...
My answer is that you can never trust the news no matter what they try to spin. You have to use deductive reasoning to think outside the box, if you want to ever know the truth.
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Cydoniaquest wrote:
Ogami, it surprises me that you would take the conspiracy theorist approach here.....Isn't it your belief that the official narrative is always the correct one? He must have committed suicide because CNN says so....Right?
My approach *is* the official approach, because President Trump and me are always on the same wavelength!
Trump retweets conspiracy theory that Bill Clinton killed Jeffrey Epstein
Ah hah hah hah! Trump is right!
Not a new conspiracy theory at all, by the way. When the Clintons are upset, bodies start to fall around them. It's common enough, Cydoniaquest, that we have endless editorial cartoons about this, long before Epstein:
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It is all about punctuation: Suicide? Watch!
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Cydoniaquest wrote:
BTW.....I completely agree with you on this one, Ogami.....It's obvious that Epstein was "taken out".....probably another hit on the Clinton hit list.....next to Seth Rich and VInce Foster....
None of what you say is "obvious". You are in fact making multiple accusations of murder without a single item of evidence. And you are doing so for partisan political motives.
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Ogami wrote:
My approach *is* the official approach, because President Trump and me are always on the same wavelength!
Trump retweets conspiracy theory that Bill Clinton killed Jeffrey Epstein
Ah hah hah hah! Trump is right!
President Known Liar saying something on twitter is your truth?
In real news, Trump with his spreading of groundless serious accusations against a political opponent, has once again shown himself to be unworthy of holding public office.
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Official news: Two prison guards were over-worked, on over time, staff cuts to blame, whoopsie doopsie.
This reminds me of:
"Where'd this furniture come from?" "It fell offa da truck, now get outta here!"
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I was watching some coverage of this (FoxNews and youtube media), and while it's funny to blame the Clintons, there were simply too many visitors to Epstein's island who also wanted him gone.
We're going to find out that the timing of the video cameras going down is as phony as Jussie Smollet's plea deal to get out of jail for filing a false police report.
One thing, Cydoniaquest, there is a distinction between a Conspiracy Theory and a Criminal Conspiracy. The latter is a good possibility, the former will have to wait as the facts come out.
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The Dowie wrote:
Ogami wrote:
My approach *is* the official approach, because President Trump and me are always on the same wavelength!
Trump retweets conspiracy theory that Bill Clinton killed Jeffrey Epstein
Ah hah hah hah! Trump is right!President Known Liar saying something on twitter is your truth?
In real news, Trump with his spreading of groundless serious accusations against a political opponent, has once again shown himself to be unworthy of holding public office.
We should have elected Hillary
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Doesn't it bother you that everything you believe in is a lie, Dowie?
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The Dowie wrote:
Probably the saddest indicator of how desperate Dems are is that they tune out the past 15 years of Epstein's parties with Democrat donors, Democrat officials, Democrat presidents, Hollywood elitists, but dwell on how Trump hasn't had any contact with Epstein for those past 15 years. They have to mentally look "around" the 15 years of Democrats partying on Epstein's jet and island, including President Bill Clinton, and skip back to when Donald Trump knew him 15 years ago but had no contact with him in the past 15 years. "His friend just died". Democrat desperation, as usual.
If a Democrat/leftist were to go back over the past four years, to every "this event will get Trump" gotcha moment, go through them all and count them up. None of the were real. Trump's still here, still in charge, still president, still commander in chief, still setting our national agenda on every level.
At what point do leftists say "We've been lied to by our side all these years. Trump has been none of the things they've been screaming at us since 2015. This has all been a sleazy gambit to turn out the Democrat voter base on election day".
At what point does that realization take place? Go watch CNN, read the New York Times, watch whatever they're obsessing over on any given day. Zero reality with endless Democrat punditry. All to agitate, to work up their base, turn out the vote. The American people are happy with the job Trump is doing, and will cheerfully re-elect him in 2020, and turn out the Democrat House for good. Nothing you watch or listen to or read from the Democrat/leftist media is going to tell you that, because their job is to lie to you, Dowie.
At long last, when are you going to be sick of being lied to, by your own leftist news media? They're lying to you, not me, not Trump!
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DEMON-RATS & MEDIA ARE TRYING, EVERY WHICH WAY ...to connect president TRUMP, but fail. The guy we KNOW went on Lolita Express. 26 times by logs & more, NOT ONE WORD BY MEDIA! FUNNY. How is
that possible? Bill Clinton would ditch SS many times to go on these excursions. Hillary too. WHILE PRESIDENT! One would think, that would be the news. OR DANNY WILLIAMS. SON OF BILLS BY BLACK PROSTITUTE. That Chelsea is not bio daughter of Bill! OR MANCHELLE.
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THINK IF ANY OF THIS WAS A STORY ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP.
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Ogami wrote:
The Dowie wrote:
Probably the saddest indicator of how desperate Dems are is that they tune out the past 15 years of Epstein's parties with Democrat donors, Democrat officials, Democrat presidents, Hollywood elitists, but dwell on how Trump hasn't had any contact with Epstein for those past 15 years. They have to mentally look "around" the 15 years of Democrats partying on Epstein's jet and island, including President Bill Clinton, and skip back to when Donald Trump knew him 15 years ago but had no contact with him in the past 15 years. "His friend just died". Democrat desperation, as usual.
If a Democrat/leftist were to go back over the past four years, to every "this event will get Trump" gotcha moment, go through them all and count them up. None of the were real. Trump's still here, still in charge, still president, still commander in chief, still setting our national agenda on every level.
At what point do leftists say "We've been lied to by our side all these years. Trump has been none of the things they've been screaming at us since 2015. This has all been a sleazy gambit to turn out the Democrat voter base on election day".
At what point does that realization take place? Go watch CNN, read the New York Times, watch whatever they're obsessing over on any given day. Zero reality with endless Democrat punditry. All to agitate, to work up their base, turn out the vote. The American people are happy with the job Trump is doing, and will cheerfully re-elect him in 2020, and turn out the Democrat House for good. Nothing you watch or listen to or read from the Democrat/leftist media is going to tell you that, because their job is to lie to you, Dowie.
At long last, when are you going to be sick of being lied to, by your own leftist news media? They're lying to you, not me, not Trump!
Bill Clinton is on the flight logs of Epstein's private jet some 27 or 28 times, flying out to Pedo Island resort aboard Lolita express. Hillary as well. Trump, on the other hand is on record kicking Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago....not having anything to do with Epstein...
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✔ Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead
I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!
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Anyone who buys the official story alleging Epstein suicided himself obviously knows zero about federal prison facilities. There hasn’t been a successful suicide at the NYC MCC in 40 years. More interesting info @ link below:
I doubt Jeff is dead. Btw since the late 1990s many of us New Mexico residents had heard sinister rumors concerning spooky goings on at Epstein’s huge Zorro ranch. New Mexico is chock full of ‘secret’ government facilities including DUMBS even in the mountains. If you know what to look for, you can see evidence in satellite photos that the residences of Epstein’s estate are sited on top of underground construction, just like his Caribbean island home.
Mucho photos and history @ link:
Interesting how the Epstein residence and guest cottages on Orgy Island weren’t remotely luxurious in the style his rich ‘friends’ are accustomed to. The interior decor were more like Days Inn motel rooms and lounges than Ritz Carleton suites.
Last edited by Doc.Levy (8/23/2019 3:12 pm)
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Epstein’s activities were suspected in limited circles in the 1990s. But internet researchers started hunting in 2008 iirc. By 2015 a few web sleuths were publishing the dark & dirty stuff the general public is only now hearing.
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And now we've apparently got Attorney General Barr, going along with the hoax....giving the perps a past.....I told people on the other board, this guy probably couldn't be trusted either....